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Mahavagga
I. Mahākhandhako

Mv I 14.1

PTS: Mv I 1.24.5 | CS: vin.mv.01.14.01

Abhiññātānaṃ pabbajjā

The Going-forth of Well-known Sons

Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

2017

Alternate translations/layout: "line by line" Pāḷi - English

- Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammā-sambuddhassa -

(Mv.I.24.5) [73] At that time, many sons of well-known Magadhan families were living the holy life under the Blessed One. People criticized and complained and spread it about, “The contemplative Gotama is practicing for the sake of heirlessness. The contemplative Gotama is practicing for the sake of widowhood. The contemplative Gotama is practicing for the sake of cutting off family lineages. Now the thousand coiled-hair ascetics have been given the Going-forth by him, and also these two hundred and fifty wanderers of Sañjaya. And many many well-known sons of Magadhan families are living the holy life under him.

It got so bad that on seeing monks, they would taunt them with this verse:

“The great contemplative has come, to the mountain pasture of Magadha, Having led away all of Sañjaya’s, who will he lead away now?”

(Mv.I.24.6) The monks heard the people criticizing, complaining, and spreading this about. Then the monks reported the matter to the Blessed One.

“Monks, the noise won’t last long. After seven days it will disappear. Monks, in case anybody taunts you with this verse,

“‘The great contemplative has come, to the mountain pasture of Magadha, Having led away all of Sañjaya’s, who will he lead away now?’

[75] “counter the taunt with this one:

“‘The Tathāgatas, great heroes, do lead with the true Dhamma. For those who know, who lead by the Dhamma, what’s the jealousy?’”[1]

(Mv.I.24.7) Then at that time, on seeing monks, people would taunt them with the verse:

“The great contemplative has come, to the mountain pasture of Magadha, Having led away all of Sañjaya’s, who will he lead away now?”

The monks would counter the taunt with this verse:

“The Tathāgatas, great heroes, do lead with the true Dhamma. For those who know, who lead by the Dhamma, what’s the jealousy?”

[76] The people said, “The Sakyan-son contemplatives lead by Dhamma, not by non-Dhamma, they say.”

The noise lasted just seven days. After seven days it disappeared.

Notes

1.: Found also in SN 4.25

Provenance:

2017 Ven. Khematto Bhikkhu

Edition: 2017-09-29.

Transcribed from a file generously provided by the translator via dhammatalks.org and edited to ZzE-style by sj.

2017

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